What's Hot from This Kitchen?

Over a pot of Kitchari, Naveen Zutshi, CIO at Databricks, gets into the identity problem hiding in plain sight: the apps, tokens, secrets, and agents moving through modern organizations faster than teams can track them. His argument is simple: identity is no longer a people problem. Non-human identities can outnumber employees, hold long-lived access, and become the entry point even when every familiar control looks mature.

Idan Gour of Astrix Security shows how discovery can reveal not just risk, but the work teams are building and duplicating across the business. That urgency fits Naveen’s path through fast-growing tech environments, from Palo Alto Networks to Databricks, where scale turns small access gaps into business-wide exposure.

Like Kitchari, where rice, lentils, spices, and the coveted crisp bottom all depend on controlled layers, the conversation keeps returning to the same idea: access only works when every layer is visible, timed, and governed. The future of security may belong to teams that can see the non-human work before it starts moving on its own.

What You’ll Learn

  • "AI agents: humans or non-humans?": Idan’s customer-backed question that pushed Astrix to treat AI agents as first-class non-human identities.
  • The skeptical CISO scan: why a quick look inside Slack, GitHub, Salesforce, and other apps can expose secrets teams did not know existed.
  • “Human engineers and AI engineers”: how Idan expects agent work to evolve beyond one user or developer, with AI workers taking tasks across the organization.
  • “It was a conversation about collaboration”: the moment discovery moves past security and shows leaders what teams are building, sharing, and duplicating.
  • The brain, memory, and context: Idan’s model for agent operations, and why access becomes the context layer security teams must govern.

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Key Moments in This Episode

  • 03:38
    Idan Introduces Grandma’s Kitchari
  • 08:07
    The Skeptical CISO Scan
  • 10:55
    Agents Start Acting Like Microservices
  • 13:29
    AI Agents Become First-Class Citizens
  • 16:06
    The Brain, Memory, and Context